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Old 05-07-2009, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Pushing the nose bone into the brain; fact or myth?

Recently a member of this forum made a post claiming that an upward blow to the nose could kill someone. Now I donít want to single anyone out so I wonít post a link but Iím sure we all have heard this claim made before. The idea behind this claim is that the nose bone can be driven into the brain thus killing the person.

To start with the nose is mostly made of soft cartilage as can be seen from this photo of a human skull.



Notice that there is a bridge of bone between the eye sockets, this is the nasal bone. Also notice that the nasal bone is attached to both cheek bones and the frontal bone of the cranium. In these close up pictures you can see that the nasal bone is small, almost delicate.





Now assuming a blow could detach the nasal bone from both cheek bones and be driven upward at the right angle, where would it go? From the model below you can see that the nasal bone would have to penetrate the hard frontal bone of the cranium pass through the frontal sinuses and penetrate more bone in order to damage the brain. Itís questionable whether the nasal bone has the length to reach the brain let alone the strength to penetrate the skull.



Add to this that there isnít one medically documented case of a nasal bone being driven into the brain by a blow from a personís hand. If this was likely or even possible there would have been a lot of dead boxers over the centuries instead of a lot of boxers with busted noses.

It's just a myth!
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 05-07-2009, 10:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Pushing the nose bone into the brain; fact or myth?

Now, I remember numerous credits and discredits and basically what it comes down to is, no matter how experienced you are, the person practically has to be letting you do it with something other than your hands, if it's even possible at all.

There's still some possibility, as long as the guy if bent over, still, and pointing at his nose while you try to uppercut him with a moving car.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Now, I remember numerous credits and discredits and basically what it comes down to is, no matter how experienced you are, the person practically has to be letting you do it with something other than your hands, if it's even possible at all.

There's still some possibility, as long as the guy if bent over, still, and pointing at his nose while you try to uppercut him with a moving car.
LOL. Beautifully put, the last bit made me lol hard.
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Old 05-07-2009, 11:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Lets be honest though, it would still hurt like a bitch getting uppercutted or palm striked to the tip of the nose. BJ penn tipped GSP's nose in their first fight and it broke super easily.
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if it worked that easy then it would be the most used attack for womans self defense rathen then a nut kick...
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Old 05-08-2009, 12:03 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Lets be honest though, it would still hurt like a bitch getting uppercutted or palm striked to the tip of the nose. BJ penn tipped GSP's nose in their first fight and it broke super easily.
Letís be honest, even with a broken nose GSP still won the fight.

And Iíve had my nose broken by a punch and guess what, it didnít hurt like a bitch.
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Well noses are fairly easy to break if I remember correctly. And it is like an auto tear duct, almost good as throwing salt in the eyes for a few seconds.
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:19 AM   #9 (permalink)
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this is a question for johanath
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Old 05-08-2009, 01:27 AM   #10 (permalink)
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ya knw matt i was thinkin the exact same thing. JOHONATH!
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