[PinStripes13]

Originally Posted by DaeronX

before the fight, i stepped in the ring, im ready to go, we touch gloves...

JIZZ-IN-MY PANTS!!

he takes me down, i close the guard, he passes the guard and mounts me...

JIZZ-IN-MY PANTS!!

The heavyweight in my gym says shit like this... When he says it, I get creeped out...

You, my good sir, put a humorous spin on it...

Or maybe it's the fact that a 350lb man saying he just jizzed himself is, infact, scary, and extremely disturbing... I wonder if he's seen his toes, let alone is penis, in the last... 15 years.

[Luther]

Originally Posted by Johanath

Mate, I won't be posting anything worth reading anytime soon - so feel free to write something n the meantime! It'll get a bit more of a discussion going, always a good thing. I'm sure we'll all learn something form

Well, I just found out that I will be away for sometime, so it seems you will still get there first. The only thing I had time to look at is: The Mr Science Show: Sex before Sport? This does not have much information, but perhaps a good starting block.


Also, I will be gone until early January.

-Luther

[tonyv156]

[QUOTE=SOUL_FIGHTER;88609].
No sex or masturbation for 2 weeks. The lack of semen in your system is not what makes you better, it's the primal extinct like "WHEN I WIN THIS, I CAN GET PUSSY!!" that makes you more aggressive.
QUOTE]

Sig'd.

[mlpor3]

I read a research article that suggested ejaculation drops ur testoterone levels.
it also stated that not ejaculating did not have that great an affect until the 7th day (without), when ur body has a massive peak in testosterone levels before it slowly drops again after the 7th day
so if u have a fight or competition coming up, it is ideal to not ejaculate the 7 days leading up to the fight, so ur testosterone peaks on the day of the comp

[Brwyman]

lol daeron

[Brwyman]

before the fight, i stepped in the ring, im ready to go, we touch gloves...

JIZZ-IN-MY PANTS!!

he takes me down, i close the guard, he passes the guard and mounts me...

JIZZ-IN-MY PANTS!!
__________________
thats hilarious

[Johanath]

As my exams have ended and I have remembered this thread, I’ve come back to answer it as promised.

Originally Posted by Pizzapie

There are rumors about how very rare ejaculation makes you better at training, they say Seamen gives you the fighting power? is this true?

cause I seen stuff how they say it's best to let your body rest and stuff instead of ejaculation and whatnot

They say its better to not ejactulate and its good for your body on the long run, and when you do it it takes away some energy and makes you tired for a bit. so they say when you dont do it your body will restore and whatnot

is this true?


*edit* the question is kinda twisted,

What Im basically trying to say is...

Isnt it better to not masturbate etc (and ejaculate) lmao that rhymes Masturbate Ejaculate......

Sex or masturbation prior to sport has been of great debate over the years. The argument revolves around the idea that abstinence can improve an athlete’s performance, whether in the ring, on the track or on the football field.


What happens in the acute phase after sex?

It is well documented that testosterone (which contributes to building muscle mass and strengthening of performance) drops down temporarily after love making. As other members have rightfully pointed out, testosterone is also linked to aggression.

Also demonstrated by the following post, some athletes and coaches believe that abstinence leads to ‘sexual frustration’ and the aggression itself will improve performance.

Originally Posted by SOUL_FIGHTER

My trainer and few guys from my gym do two week rule.
No sex or masturbation for 2 weeks. The lack of semen in your system is not what makes you better, it's the primal extinct like "WHEN I WIN THIS, I CAN GET PUSSY!!" that makes you more aggressive.

Also, it's not the sex that gets you tired. It's the lack of proper sleep. When you have a girl over and you spend time at night fucking and not sleeping right because she's hogging the covers - you're not getting proper rest. Personally when I look at porn at night, I have trouble falling asleep.

I have seen and heard numerous reports by women, whether in documentaries, gossip magazines or even in clinical settings, where there are complaints of boyfriends/husbands falling asleep shortly after they ejaculate. Perhaps members themselves have heard of this, either from the above sources or even first hand? This begs the question though – is this sleepiness pattern in agreement with what these coaches and athletes are saying? Perhaps this is why all of the abstinence advice arose from?

Regardless of what is said, there exist at least a few reasons why this sleepiness or tiredness occurs. Let us explore a few of the ‘mechanisms’ behind the act of sex first before we make any deductions?

Firstly, sexual intercourse can be an extremely rigorous activity and can consume an enormous amount of energy. That in itself would be a fair reason for why men fall asleep shortly after sex. (Although from the above, our hero Imam is an exception - an Ironman who doesn't so easily tire.)

Secondly, there is a biochemical basis behind sex, and more specifically; the orgasm phase itself. There is a release of numerous chemical factors such as adrenaline, serotonin, prolactin and oxytocin (to name but a few). Each of these has its own function towards the act of sex itself and also towards recovery and social interaction post-intercourse.

Adrenaline increases the heart rate and causes dilation of the airways to better sustain the body during sex. Prolactin (besides having a function with breast feeding) increases during sleep. Serotonin is also released in time with the sleep cycle. These two hormones most likely play a role in the sleepiness experienced.

Of the hormones I listed above, oxytocin is a probably the most interesting hormone (at least it intrigues me!). The reason why I say this is because it has been recognised as one of the emotion-bonding hormones. It enhances pair bonding between sexual partners and induces a feeling of satisfaction, contentment, relaxation and sense of security. This is likely a consequence of evolution, with bonding between parents to better care for children. (Furthermore, this hormone induces ‘maternal behaviour’ in the mother, to also better look after their children, with less chance of abandonment and more chance of rearing the newborn.) This feeling of contentment would also be what makes a male sleepy after sex.

In the immediacy (or shortly) following ejaculation, it would therefore be fair to assume that sex or masturbation would likely play some role in making a man feel tired. I believe that it would affect performance to some degree on the sporting ground. So having a bit of fun just before we have that important fight bout probably isn’t the best idea, with a lady or otherwise...
[Glances towards Toxic]

Originally Posted by Toxic

What about the effects of sex if the person has sufficient time to recover, say overnight or a couple of days later?

In a fit male, recovery time is usually quite rapid and the effects of the above hormones are relatively short-lived. (Those hormones don't last for more than a few hours, really.) Hence, I see no reason why their performance would be affected. So I agree with JollyRoger:

Originally Posted by JollyRoger

No. At least it's not scientifically proven to be a factor at all. It may affect motivation, but not performance.

I have reviewed the literature and as of yet, there has been no immediate link found between abstinence and any benefits to endurance, strength or overall performance. So Muhammad Ali’s practice of abstinence (sometimes up to six weeks) was unfounded. He would probably have remained the ‘Greatest’, regardless.



So what is the moral of the story, chaps?
That one can shoot and still score, or score and still shoot!


Hope that sheds some light on the matter! Haha!

Originally Posted by NeoRave

And in my experience, it doesn't affect my Wing Chun, but it does affect my fencing. Maybe it's because fencing requires more finesse, maybe it's just in my head. I don't know.

Hmmm NeoRave, what you have noticed is actually quite interesting. I can offer a few thoughts on the matter.

i) Perhaps the time interval between ejaculation with the fencing and Wing Chun were different when you observed the altered energy levels?
ii) You have a particular schedule of activities prior to Fencing VS Wing Chun, which would make you more tired?

ii) From what I understand, Wing Chun in itself stresses the ‘softer’ aspects of martial arts, emphasising less use of ‘hard’ or ‘confrontational’ forces. It highlights minimal use of energy to achieve the same effect. The practitioner aims to preserve as much energy as possible. On the other hand, fencing incorporates multiple, rapid strokes and lunges (no jokes about the choice of words please) that would tire out the muscles more than with Wing Chun. In a sense, it is much more of a ‘confrontational’ form of fighting, could this be why?


Interesting medical fact of the day:

Apparently, the average human male lasts approximately five to ten minutes during sex. The average rate of pelvic thrusts is approximately 80 times during sex, occurring over two minutes or so. Who said sex isn't a form of workout?


P.S. Please don’t have all of these thoughts running through your head when having intercourse or otherwise [Glances at Toxic again]. Knowing this theory by itself would be enough to guarantee a sub-optimal performance for anyone (whether in a bed or in a bout).

Cheers!

[Johanath]

I came back to this thread to add this extra note:

Imagine how much angst I would have caused everyone (and their partners) had I increased the value for the average number of minutes males lasted and number of thrusts performed to a ridiculous amount?

[Evil grin]

[NeoRave]

Originally Posted by Johanath

Hmmm NeoRave, what you have noticed is actually quite interesting. I can offer a few thoughts on the matter.

i) Perhaps the time interval between ejaculation with the fencing and Wing Chun were different when you observed the altered energy levels?
ii) You have a particular schedule of activities prior to Fencing VS Wing Chun, which would make you more tired?

ii) From what I understand, Wing Chun in itself stresses the ‘softer’ aspects of martial arts, emphasising less use of ‘hard’ or ‘confrontational’ forces. It highlights minimal use of energy to achieve the same effect. The practitioner aims to preserve as much energy as possible. On the other hand, fencing incorporates multiple, rapid strokes and lunges (no jokes about the choice of words please) that would tire out the muscles more than with Wing Chun. In a sense, it is much more of a ‘confrontational’ form of fighting, could this be why?

The theory of fencing being more physically exhausting than Wing Chun sounds believable, but there have been WC-lessons where I've had to exert myself to the fullest. I cannot recall whether this has also been the case for me closely after ejaculation, however. For as I've said earlier: I've been dry for over a year now.

But I do know that while fencing, I've had trouble to keep a steady aim and perfect reflexes. Without ejaculation beforehand, my reflexes tend to be as on edge as you could possibly imagine. But on evenings following ejaculation, my reflexes, aim and motivation(!) have been less.

Very interesting topic, I have to say.

[Nate]

Originally Posted by Johanath

I came back to this thread to add this extra note:

Imagine how much angst I would have caused everyone (and their partners) had I increased the value for the average number of minutes males lasted and number of thrusts performed to a ridiculous amount?

[Evil grin]

lol Jon that would have been a good play

are these statistics meant to correlate with protected or unprotected sex? because i know sometimes in the medical community they maintain that condoms do not reduce pleasure...but anyone who's been in a position to compare both knows theres a difference (as i once felt truth-bound to expose to a grade 9 gym class while being their grade 12 peer tutor )

so out of curiosity, which is it? ???